Jul 24 2010

Boat Brokers

At some point in any boat-owner’s experience, you’re going to encounter a broker. Deservedly or not, yacht brokers in general tend to have a certain reputation: scheming, underhanded, sneaky, dishonest, etc. Sometimes, rarely, it’s all true. Often, it’s not at all true… well, sorta. In any event, key to your dealings with any yacht broker is a better understanding of how the yacht-brokering business works. Just a little “inside knowledge” might be able to really help you out in the long-run.

It’s important to understand how most brokers get paid. While the exact numbers may vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, here in the American northeast, brokers typically take a 10% commission out of the selling price. Be aware that while this amount is ostensibly being paid by the selling party (for the services of selling their boat), it is actually being derived from the monies that the purchasing party brings to the table.

In real-estate, there is usually both a buying and a selling agent, who split the commission between them. While this is entirely possible (and desirable) during a yacht-purchasing transaction, many yacht brokers privately prefer (and often actively strive) to “sell their own listing”, ie., represent the buyer directly to the seller and take the entire 10% commission for themselves. Who’s interests are being best-served, the seller’s, or the buyer’s?

It’s a safer bet for most brokers to primarily serve as a seller’s agent. There is a widespread attitude amongst brokers that buyers are fickle and without loyalty; better to take listings, sit on the inventory, and aggressively sell to whichever prospective buyer comes along. There is usually some sort of agreement in place between the seller and the broker regarding the listing of the boat, so the broker is somewhat protected against the seller taking another route. When a broker acts as a buyer’s agent, they may work for days, weeks, months, or longer with some particular buyer, only to have them ultimately purchase through another party. That’s a lot of work for nothing!

Are you a broker, buyer, or seller? Have you had some remarkable experience, for better or worse, from which others could learn? Please comment below!

Better brokers know that most commission sales earnings come down to unit volume;  all else being equal they’d just as well “side” ten $10,000 boats as one $100,000 boat. Better brokers also appreciate the value of repeat-business and/or positive word-of-mouth advertising. As such, better brokers should be happy and enthusiastic to function as a buyer’s agent, seeking out the boat that best suits your wants and budget, no matter where or with whom that yacht may be listed.

Occasionally you’ll encounter a “discounted brokerage”, where they guarantee a reduction in their commission, or cash-back, or some other fee-reduction scheme. When functioning as a buyer’s agent, they may take a 3% commission instead of their usual 5% (the other 5% going to the seller’s agent). This could make for a decent savings, but remember this: you, the buyer, are paying the whole commission, to all parties. Yes, your agent is taking 2% less, but you’re also paying the seller’s agent 2% more to work harder against you during the negotiations.

It would be better, in our opinion, to pay your buyer’s agent the full 5% and strive to have them work as aggressively as possible on your behalf to secure the best deal. Better yet to have your agent negotiate a 5% price-reduction rather than rebate you some part of their fee. If you try a discount brokerage, be sure to discover and understand that brokerage’s reasons for offering such a service; some innovation or the other may well offer an unforeseen advantage to all parties.

If you find yourself looking for a yacht, and speaking to a broker, approach them as you would an employee of yours, not as you’d approach a salesperson. Let them know that you want them to work for you, not for the seller, and that you understand that you’ll be the one paying their commission. Get to know your broker, and let them know you too. A yacht might well be one of the top 2 or 3 most expensive purchases of your life. Let the broker know that you want them to specifically function as your buyer’s agent, and furthermore, honestly assure them that you’ll stick with them and involve them in whatever purchasing transaction you ultimately decide upon.

Just as when working with a marine surveyor, it’s important to clarify that your agent is working for you, not some other party. There are many excellent, reputable, honest brokers out there who are willing to really earn their commission as well as your respect. That kind of respect, however, is a two-way street, and it’s important to understand that many brokers put in many long unpaid hours just to see deals evaporate at the last minute. Ultimately, honest respect and clear dealing will gain you the best results.


Apr 11 2010

Through-hull fitting replacement

Even in better boatyards, I’ve watched inexperienced workers struggle with skin-fitting replacement. Whether it’s plastic, stainless steel, or proper bronze, once properly installed and generously -usually excessively- buttered with adhesive sealant, skin-fittings can become extremely difficult to remove.

If you’re replacing a faulty seacock, you’ll be lucky to wind it off of the through-hull skin-fitting. It’s not uncommon to find that the effort to do so ends up damaging the threads or breaking the sealant. Usually, the nut is corroded/glued beyond moving. A large enough wrench might move it, but there never seems to be room or access to employ such a tool. Even if you get the nut spun or split off of the threads, the fitting is usually permanently bonded to the hull.

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Apr 7 2010

Good Enough To Fish

Down at the boatyard, out back, aboard whatever random project boat, there always seems to exist that lure, that temptation, that irrational motivation to pursue perfection. If you really have the skills, the patience, and the deep pockets to chase after that golden ring on your own, go for it. Just be aware that perfection is a moving target, and that no boat is ever really done, finished, perfected, and complete.

We’ve fought the lure of perfection on every project of our own, and watched many others in the boatyard battle with various degrees of success and failure. To help both ourselves and others out of this cycle, we keep the following question at the forefront of our minds:

“What is really more important at the end of the day; having the ‘perfect’ boat, or just getting out on the water?”

Many excellent and accomplished yachtsmen have logged thousands of days and miles at sea aboard boats that were functional, robust, well-kept, and utterly imperfect. How else to describe these craft? The commercial fishermen would call it, “Good enough to fish.” Going one step further, it might be asked, “How lousy does a fishing boat have to be before it can’t catch any fish at all?”. We’ve found again and again that barely-functional is wildly better than not functional at all.

While you’re re-sanding to re-varnish that section of cap-rail you repaired two summers ago on your project boat that has yet to see the water, your motivation and impetus to continue is likely that vision of the excellent times to come once you finally have her afloat in all her perfect glory. That’s all very fine, and we completely understand. We also know that you’ll probably never again notice those sags in the paint or “imperfect” joinery fits once you’re out on the waves, wrapped up in the distraction of all the movement and power of the elements.

Whether you’re just starting out, or feeling perpetually dug-in, here’s a gentle reminder for you: keep your priorities on the water, not in the boat. It’s not about lowering your standards, it’s about raising your expectations for the great times ahead.


Mar 30 2010

The Marine Survey

Whether buying, selling, insuring, valuating, or embarking upon a major refit, repair, or restoration, a Marine Survey is almost always required, or at least recommended. Still, a survey is often seen by many as just another expense. Even seasoned yachtsmen can balk at the prospect of a survey.

On the other hand, an experienced, knowledgeable, and accredited Surveyor can be one of your greatest boatyard assets. A timely and thorough survey can save you endless frustration, time, and expense in the long run. Even if you are an experienced hand, a good surveyor will spot things you may have overlooked, and furthermore will stand behind their judgment.

In this post, we’ll try to show when and where a survey is required or recommended, what a survey typically entails, and a few tips and tricks on how to choose the surveyor that is right for you, your boat, and your project. Continue reading “The Marine Survey” »


Mar 9 2010

Rules of Thumb

So, you’re embarking on a boat project? A seasonal commissioning? A complete refit? If it’s your first major effort, or maybe even your first time in the boatyard, it can be an intimidating place for the uninitiated. Marine repair and carpentry are very specialized and often very expensive trades to hire on. Many boat owners have been taken for quite a ride; not due to those few unscrupulous yards, more due to their own inexperience.

Especially when planning to perform most of the work yourself, it’s essential to educate yourself. Here’s a few insights into the unspoken boatyard realities that will help you keep your eyes open and your feet on the ground.

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Mar 8 2010

Your Own Skilled Labor

For most boat owners, especially new ones, that seasonal haul-out at the local boatyard can be a very nerve-wracking experience. To the inexperienced, the typical boatyard crew appears dismayingly casual in the face of impending disaster. As your boat -your baby- swings in the slings, the “yardrats” seem to have only half an eye on the operation. They nonchalantly act as if they’ve seen it a hundred times before, and with good reason: they have.

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